“Sly Lives! (aka The Burden of Black Genius)” street exams a concept that its director, Ahmir Questlove Thompson, has had for a whereas, and that’s articulated within the Hulu documentary by Dream Hampton: There may be a consolation in failure; it’s usually what we count on to occur after we attempt. Success, alternatively, might be extra scary. It’s actually extra isolating. The wrestle of grappling with success, significantly amongst Black artists, is a grueling one. Questlove reckons the primary particular person to need to struggle the fashionable model of that wrestle was Sly Stone.
So “Sly Lives!” is a few various things directly. It is a wonderful primer on Stone’s life and profession, as instructed by means of interviews by his bandmates, relations, and musicians and producers who had been impressed by his work. It’s also a car to discover its subtitle, the burden of Black genius. And it’s a visible dive into the groundbreaking music Stone made, as a solo artist and with the band Sly and the Household Stone.
The documentary required hanging a very advantageous stability between all three of those storylines, in order that each full novices would get the story and essentially the most invested and lore-steeped Sly Stone supernerds would get one thing out of the movie.
Questlove’s favourite a part of the filmmaking course of is “The Clarice, ‘Silence of the Lambs’ storage unit” deep-dive into archival materials, as he termed it on an episode of the Filmmaker Toolkit podcast with the movie’s producer, Joseph Patel. However possibly essentially the most very important a part of the filmmaking work for “Sly Lives!” was the interview course of itself. Chatting with modern musicians keen to make themselves weak about artwork and success opens up a window into Sly’s world in a means that no live performance footage ever can.
“I knew there was a stage of artwork imitating life, however getting folks to essentially speak about how the sausage is made and what’s beneath the hood, I didn’t understand how laborious, how triggering that may be,” Questlove mentioned. “We form of went overboard in our requests, so far as getting folks to talk, of which most likely, realistically, possibly 30 % lined as much as converse to us. And even then, that 30 % was a shocker.”
Questlove was floored that Sly and the Household Stone bandmember Larry Graham could be keen to go on document, particularly, however Patel credit that and lots of the different voices within the documentary — Chaka Khan, Andre 3000, George Clinton, D’Angelo, and Nile Rodgers, amongst others — to the expertise and empathy that Questlove dropped at the undertaking.
“I believe a lot of that comes from the truth that the request got here from one other artist,” Patel instructed IndieWire. “If it had been simply a journalist asking about a few of these artists’ most weak moments, I don’t know in the event that they’d be so open.”

The documentary group did every thing that it may so as to foster an openness and intimacy within the interview course of, from utilizing an Interrotron to permit topics to see the interviewer whereas trying immediately into the digicam lens to doing every thing doable to black out or block off an consciousness of crew within the room. “They’re not seeing the crew and all of the bustling, and so psychologically, it’s simply a dialog,” Patel mentioned. “We’re stealing strategies from nice documentary filmmakers of generations earlier than us, however I simply need folks to understand that there’s a lot of labor that goes into this.”
There’s additionally a stage of experience that Questlove and Patel, by being so steeped within the music business, had been in a position to deliver to the interview course of. When the prospect got here to interview Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis, a lot of documentarians might need gone for a paired interview of the legendary producing and songwriting group. However Questlove knew to not, and magic occurred as a end result.
“As a producer, and aware of the price range, I used to be like, ‘Properly, clearly we’re going to do that collectively.’ And he’s like, ‘You may’t do them collectively.’ And I mentioned, ‘Why pay for two interviewers after we can do one?’ And he mentioned, ‘In the event you get Jimmy and Terry collectively, Jimmy will do all of the speaking and Terry shall be quiet. However I’ve talked to Terry one-on-one and he’s very insightful. He simply doesn’t like to speak in a duo setup. So we interviewed them individually in two totally different cities at two totally different occasions. And Terry’s nice within the doc.”
“They full one another’s sentences,” Questlove added. “So the truth that after they’re speaking about making ‘Rhythm Nation,’ it’s nearly as should you may run them collectively and actually they completed one another’s sentences. It nearly felt just like the intro to RunDMC’s ‘Peter Piper,’ — sorry, unhealthy reference — however simply the way in which that they completed one another’s sentences was unbelievable.”
“Sly Lives!” was formed by the extent of belief for the filmmakers’ intentions that Patel and Questlove had been in a position to convey to their interview topics and construct into the construction of the movie, generally doing take a look at screenings of sequences so as to lure different folks to be speaking heads within the movie.

“We wished to inform this story, Sly’s story, with empathy, but additionally the story of the burden of bBack genius with empathy, too. [There is] a montage on the finish of the movie that exhibits, traditionally, all these Black artists, who’re his associates — the purpose of the movie, what we would like folks to stroll away with, is these artists give us a lot that we now have to indicate them some grace as they take care of success,” Patel mentioned.
The documentary is designed, then for that filmmaking empathy to translate into a sympathetic curiosity from the viewers, which permits Questlove and Patel to do a little bit extra inside baseball exploration of precisely what Sly Stone’s genius regarded like and has meant to different artists.
“ I actually mentioned, ‘OK, let’s make the viewers really feel sensible.Like, in my DJ gigs, I’ll play the unique pattern of the music and then when the eureka motion comes, everybody goes, ‘Oh my God!’ Individuals really feel sensible. It’s the identical factor for films,” Questlove mentioned. “The technical facet of why he’s a genius and the way in which we converse of the Stones and the Beatles and all of the improvements they’ve finished… Sly has a checklist longer than everybody.”
“Sly Lives! (Aka The Burden of Black Genius)” is accessible to stream on Hulu.
To listen to Questlove and Joseph Patel’s full interview, subscribe to the Filmmaker Toolkit podcast on Apple, Spotify, or your favourite podcast platform.